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Re: '48 Fuel pump one way valve

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:22 pm
by showe
Bruce, here’s the dimensions.
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Gary, looks like Parker on the label to me.
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Re: '48 Fuel pump one way valve

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:12 am
by mike.bernath
This is interesting. Can somebody confirm which way the actual valve should be oriented? The valve/slug orientation is what I am after.

Re: '48 Fuel pump one way valve

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:11 pm
by 3958v
The valve allows fuel to bypass the fuel pump and flow to the carb in the event of a fuel pump failure. It stops fuel from returning from the pressure side of the pump back to the suction side of the pump. In all but the most unusual situations the 48 will run without the pump but it is required equipment. Bill K

Re: '48 Fuel pump one way valve

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:37 pm
by mike.bernath
Which way does the actual bullet/check plug orient? I understand the purpose of it. Thanks.

Re: '48 Fuel pump one way valve

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 5:54 pm
by GAHorn
If it has an "arrow" pointing toward the carb that would be a "clue". One might also gently blow thru it with your mouth to see which way it allows flow (towards the carb.)

Re: '48 Fuel pump one way valve

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:31 pm
by 3958v
Georges recommendation to gently blow thru the valve is an important step. The pressure of the gravity of the fuel in the line needs to open the check valve or a fuel pump failure will soon result in an engine failure. Bill K

Re: '48 Fuel pump one way valve

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 7:19 am
by n2582d
n2582d wrote: ...Frankly, that copper fuel pressure line, restrictor or no restrictor, makes me a bit queasy. If the line breaks with no restrictor there is a stream of pressurized fuel in the vicinity of the red hot exhaust pipes. With a restrictor it's probably a fine mist of pressurized fuel. Too vivid of an imagination I guess. I have never heard of NTSB reports where this has been an issue. But I have had 1/8" fuel primer lines break. ...
Here's an accident report on a C-195 where a copper oil scavenge line failed. The Aussies are queasy about copper fuel lines too.
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Here's what John Schwaner says about copper tubing:
Most tubing-failures on aircraft are caused by fatigue. Tubing on aircraft vibrates. How well your tubing endures when subjected to load reversals, impulses, and vibration is called "fatigue strength". Of the three popular tubing types (3003-0, 6061-0, 5052-0), 5052-0 has the best fatigue strength. Originally aircraft used soft copper-tubing. There is even some of this still around. Although copper was strong enough, it was replaced with aluminum and stainless tube because of the high fatigue failures of copper. For lower pressures, 5052-0 became the tubing of choice because it has the best fatigue strength of any of the non heat-treat aluminum alloys. ... Copper tubing on older aircraft should be removed and replaced with 5052-0 before it breaks. There is no warning when copper tubing breaks. One cannot "inspect" it and declare it ok. Another limitation on the use of copper tubing in aircraft engine compartments is that copper strength decreases rapidly with temperature. Some experimental and light-sport aircraft have hydraulic and fuel lines built with 6061-0 or 3003-0-tubing. Low ultimate strength and low fatigue strength provide a narrow safety margin in dynamic (vibration or impulse) applications. Take extra care in clamping and preventing tube vibration. The aircraft industry's long experience with copper tubing failures proved the importance of fatigue strength. 5052-0 has higher strength and higher fatigue strength at a small price difference. Both 5052-0, 3003 have the same Cold Workability Rating of A (easy to work with). 6061-T6 has a far lower rating of C. "It hasn't failed yet," was the attitude at NASA that essentially led to both of the Space Shuttle disasters; the complacency arises from skirting the line and surviving. But the law of large numbers will eventually get you.
Of course for those wanting to maintain the antique look of copper tubing aluminum lines just don't cut it. It would be easy to anodize these lines a copper color. Any metallurgists out there know how anodizing affects fatigue strength in aluminum?