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Striker Plate pn 0411582

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:01 am
by MoonlightVFR
1954 B sn 26433
Striker plate pn 0411582 fig 24 IPC item 18

original Just broke -Is it aluminum or steel? very light metal how did it last this long?

Googled - no satisfaction - one just sold for 79.00

New NOS replacement prohibitively expensive. 240.00 and up

How long did this same part stay in service? say 1962-63 C 172 - basic same fuselage I think. What other Cessna models used same part?

Seems like there could be a niche market for an improved part. Any ideas?

Re: Striker Plate pn 0411582

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:25 pm
by GAHorn
That part was used on all 172/175 aircraft THRU 1962... (thru SNs 17249544 and SNs 17557119 respectively)
1963 models changed latching to the later rotary latches.

Re: Striker Plate pn 0411582

Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:33 am
by n2582d
George, you're half right. The 175 series ended in 1962 with s/n 17557119 but Cessna continued to put the 0411582 striker plates on the 172 through s/n 17253392 which corresponds to the end of 1965. Grady, if you can't find the plate at any of the salvage yards listed here, I'd see how much KRN wants for theirs.

Re: Striker Plate pn 0411582

Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 6:08 am
by GAHorn
n2582d wrote:George, you're half right. The 175 series ended in 1962 with s/n 17557119 but Cessna continued to put the 0411582 striker plates on the 172 through s/n 17253392 which corresponds to the end of 1965. Grady, if you can't find the plate at any of the salvage yards listed here, I'd see how much KRN wants for theirs.
WHAT..!!! Can Cessna's Parts Catalogs be WRONG? I DON"T BELIEVE IT! :lol: I got the info after looking at the IPCs and the copy I have specifically listed that PN limited to those serials. :evil:

Just goes to show you.... (and by the way, THANKS for pointing it out... Getting on-line proves your info is correct, the 172 cont'd to use it for several more years before the switch.)

Re: Striker Plate pn 0411582

Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:46 pm
by n2582d
The C-120/140 also use p/n 0411582. In 1966 Cessna switched to the rotary style latch in most if not all of their single-engine aircraft. Before that, in 1957, the 180/182/185 show a new p/n for the striker, p/n 0711024-4. This is also the latest p/n for the C-210 striker through the 1965 model. The L-19 uses p/n 0611582. Dollars to donuts it's identical to 0411582. Pete at Air Repair probably has them for a reasonable price.

Re: Striker Plate pn 0411582

Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:36 pm
by MoonlightVFR
Thank you for your replies.

I purchased a p.n. 0611582 from Air Repair Cleveland , MS. (lovely crop duster territory).
p.n. 0611582 [ l-19 ] does indeed seem to be identical part 0411582 [ C170B].

Pricing for the part ran 384.00 UNIVAIR, only has a few in stock does not want to run out of stock too quickly.

Brand new today from Cessna 237.00 . Under certainty circumstances this may be a bargain.

Air Repair was 29.40 each - same day shipping via USPS for 5.00 ! This is an L -19 part.

I hope your door striker plate on your C 170 never breaks.

Suggest you purchase a new replacement part now; hold in reserve for perpetuity.
If you have a broken 0411582 do not discard. Find some one with a small Oxy Acly welding skills. Repair the part, do not discard. They are that rare!. Repair parts; do not throw away.

Still have a problem with secure door closure. Separate post needed.

Re: Striker Plate pn 0411582

Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:21 pm
by GAHorn
MoonlightVFR wrote:...Suggest you purchase a new replacement part now; hold in reserve for perpetuity. .....
I don't mean to sound "harsh"... but hoarding parts makes for shortages for those who really need them. Once hoarded.... they scatter to the four winds, disappear forever and lose traceability, also. As long as aircraft distributors and shops like Air Repair have them...we know where to find them.

Re: Striker Plate pn 0411582

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:04 pm
by MoonlightVFR
You are right, hoarding is wrong.
In 1950s I remember seeing a bumper sticker stating "MY FAMILY DOES NOT HOARD". I asked my dad and he started off w story about Sugar Rationing Coupon issued with my name on it. It's a long story. End.

I should have used the term "SPARES"

The resale value of a Cessna is enhanced when you purchase from intensely informed owner. Looking to the future for his A/C he built "Spares" for the next owner.

Plan now for your C170 to be 100% flyable when it is 100 years old.

Re: Striker Plate pn 0411582

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:44 pm
by n2582d
gahorn wrote:I don't mean to sound "harsh"... but hoarding parts makes for shortages for those who really need them. Once hoarded.... they scatter to the four winds, disappear forever and lose traceability, also. As long as aircraft distributors and shops like Air Repair have them...we know where to find them.
gahorn wrote:I've got one that is in immaculate/restored condition and although I have no plans to use it, I consider it too valuable as a spare to sell it for anything reasonable, therefore I cannot place a price upon it. ...
Good thing forked tongue isn't disqualifying for getting a medical! :lol:

Re: Striker Plate pn 0411582

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:31 pm
by GAHorn
n2582d wrote:
gahorn wrote:I don't mean to sound "harsh"... but hoarding parts makes for shortages for those who really need them. Once hoarded.... they scatter to the four winds, disappear forever and lose traceability, also. As long as aircraft distributors and shops like Air Repair have them...we know where to find them.
gahorn wrote:I've got one that is in immaculate/restored condition and although I have no plans to use it, I consider it too valuable as a spare to sell it for anything reasonable, therefore I cannot place a price upon it. ...
Good thing forked tongue isn't disqualifying for getting a medical! :lol:
Over a beer ...that would be very funny!

Over the internet... it is unkind, ... as it appears to say "George, you're a liar"...because the statement is taken out of context.

That statement was made in a conversation about a Narco VOR antenna. That antenna came on my airplane when I bought it...and having no VOR... I removed it. (Under Part 91 if it doesn't work... it should be repaired, disabled/placarded or removed unless an approved MEL exists, although an argument could be made for certain interior equipment items.) That antenna was removed to make a place for a GPS antenna.

I did not go out and buy the antenna as an item to hoard. I already owned it as a portion of installed equipment.

You owe me a beer. :wink:

Re: Striker Plate pn 0411582

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:58 pm
by n2582d
George, I'd be glad to buy the next beer! I had no intention of calling you a liar. A hypocrite maybe, but not a liar. I see my understanding of "forked-tounge" is a secondary definition to that of liar:
The phrase "speaks with a forked tongue" means to deliberately say one thing and mean another or, to be hypocritical, or act in a duplicitous manner.
Thanks for the background information on the Narco antenna. That context, "the rest of the story," was not there when you posted what I copied. I thought it was rather humorous to see that you were admonishing Grady, and by extension all of us, for hoarding when it appeared you do the same thing. Some long range tanks also come to mind. Thanks for bringing up this subject. I think it is an important one for all of us to think about as caretakers of classic aircraft. I'll start a new thread on the subject. Glad to see we could help Grady find a new striker plate.

Re: Striker Plate pn 0411582

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:10 pm
by GAHorn
I've slept since we discussed those tanks...and frankly, could not remember who needed them. I resigned myself to the idea that "whoever it is will bug me again about them..."

(And also, BTW, those are also something I did not go out to buy for hoarding purposes. They were given to me. I've always thought that if I ever have to do an engine, I might consider an IO-360 and might use those tanks at that time.
I don't think I have any obligation to sell something I own just because someone else wants them.... or am I missing something..??

Did you ever locate any?

Re: Striker Plate pn 0411582

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:35 pm
by n2582d
Never in the market for them. I'll quit razing you George. I'm hoarding a Javelin tank that was given to me. :D
Edit: I mean razz not raze. Don't want to burn you down!

Re: Striker Plate pn 0411582

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:10 pm
by c170b53
Tough one, want to keep and what to share. I've got stuff I think I'll need but I've never used and is gathering dust. I've given away stuff I've later needed and have had to buck up to replace (not that Narco antenna George :D ) ( George at his expense, has shown me many elbow exercises but has a favorite ? :D )
Keeping a spare, not a unreasonable idea. Buying a bunch to resell, some have to do it to pay for gas.
I've given away stuff not expecting anything and received things that exceeded my gift and on the other spectrum, asked for a contribution to the association for the part but not sure that had been followed through with.

Re: Striker Plate pn 0411582

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:02 am
by GAHorn
That's funny, Jim! Exactly what has just happened to me. One of our Members made up several sets of control-yoke bushings and sent them to me, and I brought them to the Deming convention along with some other goodies. Now that they're history... I find I need a pair for this 172 I'm looking at. :roll:

It's OK, Gary... razzing me is probably good for everyone! :lol:
(Let me know if you need any documentation for that Javelin.)