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Bottom Up Brake Bleeding

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:14 pm
by MoonlightVFR
Bottom up brake bleeding with a pump style oil can filled with 5606 seems to be preferred.

My question to the forum is simply is there an alternate method of pushing brake fluid UP through the master cylinder?

I am thinking something less than a $450.00 Snap On Pressure Pot System.

Re: Bottom Up Brake Bleeding

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 2:38 pm
by johneeb
https://www.grainger.com/product/WESTWA ... chBar=true

Grady,how about adapting one of these pressure sprayers?

Re: Bottom Up Brake Bleeding

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:12 pm
by lowNslow
MoonlightVFR wrote:Bottom up brake bleeding with a pump style oil can filled with 5606 seems to be preferred.

My question to the forum is simply is there an alternate method of pushing brake fluid UP through the master cylinder?

I am thinking something less than a $450.00 Snap On Pressure Pot System.
Not sure why you want to spend more money on a different system when the pump oil can works great?

Re: Bottom Up Brake Bleeding

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:35 pm
by nippaero
ATS has their bleeder on sale. I was just looking at it a couple days ago.


http://www.aircraft-tool.com/shop/detai ... T_ID=225DX

Re: Bottom Up Brake Bleeding

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:02 pm
by KS170A
MoonlightVFR wrote:Bottom up brake bleeding with a pump style oil can filled with 5606 seems to be preferred.

My question to the forum is simply is there an alternate method of pushing brake fluid UP through the master cylinder?

I am thinking something less than a $450.00 Snap On Pressure Pot System.
There is an alternative way. Involves filling the master cylinder, pressing the brake pedal, and pushing any trapped air down through the lines, through the pistons, and out the caliper bleeder. Sound involved? Much more so than pushing up from the caliper. Best done with two people as opposed to one person pushing up.

Get some ΒΌ" vinyl tubing, secure it to a $5 oil squirt can from your favorite hardware store, or whatever sort of pump/syringe thing you can come up with that will push the fluid up along with any air bubbles. Really no reason to spend more than just a few bucks.

Re: Bottom Up Brake Bleeding

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:58 pm
by pdb
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Josh is right. You guys are making this much too complicated.

This is the rig you need. Replace the vent plug on the master cylinder with the fitting described in a post above above and a section of tubing to catch the overflow. I am not sure if 1/8" or 3/16 tubing is best. Try 3/16" first.

Read about the process here: http://a.moirier.free.fr/Train%20d'atte ... lation.pdf under the section "Servicing from the bottom up."

As you pump, if you need to refill the pump during the process, close the nipple fitting with a wrench, refill the pump, and continue until all bubbles are gone from the system.

You can skip the part about fitting tubing to the master cylinder by wrapping rags around the master cylinder to catch the overflow but it can be messy.

Re: Bottom Up Brake Bleeding

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:27 pm
by GAHorn
PLain old ordinary plastic Garden Sprayer cost's $5 at WalMart and works beautifully! Cut the nozzle off the end of the wand and slip a piece of clear plastic hose on the end, and push the hose directly onto the bleeder fitting. 8)

https://www.walmart.com/ip/RL-Flo-Maste ... r/13376324

Re: Bottom Up Brake Bleeding

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:03 pm
by gfeher
If you decide to do it with an oil can/squirt pump as Pete shows, I recommend that you use a 1 qt pump like this one sold by Tractor Supply: https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/produ ... _vc=-10005. You won't run out of fluid. Although you can attach the clear tubing to the end of the flexible metal spout, I prefer to replace the flexible metal spout (it just screws out at the top of the can) with a brass screw-in nipple fitting and attach the clear hose there. It makes it easier to manage the hose. I don't remember the size of the fitting you'll need, but its a standard size available at any hardware store, including the big boxes. That's what I've used for years and it works great.

My second choice would be to convert a garden sprayer as George suggests. I've never tried it, but I think it's a great idea. It's essentially the same as the ATS bleeder.

Re: Bottom Up Brake Bleeding

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:45 pm
by bagarre
I used one of these http://www.homedepot.com/p/RL-Flo-Maste ... /100164531


and a length of tubing.

I had to modify the tip to remove the sprayer and fit the tubing but it worked great.
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