Removing the fuel tank.....

[jlwild]

Congratulations and nicely done.

[bagarre]

WOW! This really motivates me to do the same to 81D....as soon as it warms up a little outside.
No hanger

[roamak]

Man that tank turned out nice! Mine has been pushed back again for another few weeks....but this thread is getting bookmarked for future reference.
Greg

[Bruce Fenstermacher]

Well your not following CAR 3. It is not AVGAS it is FUEL. And you list the usable amount not the max.

These are the minimum things that it must have. You can voluntarily put anything else there like AVGAS and the max cap.

So to cover CAR 3 it needs to say:

Fuel 80 Min Oct.
18.5gal Usable

Or to cover CAR 3 and FAR 23 it needs to say:

Fuel Avgas 80 Min Oct
21gal Max 18.5gal Usable

[n2582d]

The following information shall be
marked on or adjacent to the filler cover ...
Sec. 23.1557
[(1) Fuel filler openings must be marked at or near the filler cover with ...

... I just bought new fuel caps...would it be legal to have this info painted on the cap itself?

I think you answered your own question. Keep your caps chained to the filler neck and you can mark the cap. Personally I wouldn't chain the cap though. It makes a lot of beating the wing to death noise when the cap comes off or is inadvertently left off. Don't ask me how I know. I would place the placard beyond the filler port--toward the center of the wing cord--so it is less likely to get scratched when refueling.

In the late '70's there seemed to be a rash of misfueling accidents where line boys put jet fuel in recip aircraft and vice versa. That's when Cessna ripped off the "Turbo" labels on their T210's, put nozzle restrictors on fuel filler ports, etc. It's also when GAMA added blue and green to the fuel placards octane listing. This label is typical of that push to reduce misfueling.

Here's what Cessna uses on their 1978 C-172N.

But enough about placards! You're in danger of missing the forest for the trees. Safety-wise the priority should be on installing those shoulder harnesses. That was something I encouraged my father-in-law to install in his club's 172. After a club member crashed the plane in the Sierras and had several reconstructive surgeries to his battered face my father-in-law said he should of listened.

[Bruce Fenstermacher]

CAR 3 says "on or adjacent to the filler cover". FAR 23 says "at or near the filler cover"

So if you want to keep everyone happy (you only have to comply with CAR 3) you should put it "adjacent, at or near" which complies with both but not on the filler cap as that does not comply with FAR 23.

Boy of boy I can't wait for convention to point out the deficient aircraft markings.

[bagarre]

How much did the decals cost?
Maybe we should make a bulk order and make them available at the conference.

[blueldr]

I just stenciled mine to read "NO HAM FAT". It will burn too, you know and works surprisingly well in an engine of the technology of a C-145.

[Bruce Fenstermacher]

And should it really be useable or usable?

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I can only refer you back to the CAR and FAR I posted. Neither calls for the total fuel the tank can hold.

I would not put it behind or down wind of the fuel port so the fuel splashed or run overboard can wash it off.

I also would not likely spend so much on two labels when I could buy a Brother P-touch starting at $29 and make lots of labels. OK I'll come clean I wouldn't buy a P-touch either, I'd borrow one from my wife or from work.

[lowNslow]

Direct quote from CAR 3:

(a) The word "fuel," the minimum
permissible fuel octane number for the engines
installed, and the usable fuel tank capacity. (See
§ 3.437.)

[bagarre]

Boy of boy I can't wait for convention to point out the deficient aircraft markings.

You're not allowed near my plane as the only thing marked is the Engine Primer

[N2255D]

I'm cheap so I used these http://www.aircraft-spruce.com/catalog/ ... ards11.php and added "usable fuel 18.5 gal" with a tape embosser. So far they've lasted 14 years and the embossed labels were replaced by Ptouch labels about 10 years ago. My airplane is never refueled unless I'm there.

[GAHorn]

For those of you with fuel STC's, you should re-read your STC installation instructions to be certain your fuel placard meets those. (I'll bet there's an ASTM specification which must be listed.)

I'm just guessing, but I'll bet bluEldr refuses to carry any Porkers in his travels to the outback campouts to which he flys. (No Ham Fat)

[N2255D]

[quote="gahorn"]For those of you with fuel STC's, you should re-read your STC installation instructions to be certain your fuel placard meets those. (I'll bet there's an ASTM specification which must be listed.)


Oh you mean kinda like this one

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from here http://www.aircraft-spruce.com/catalog/ ... ards11.php ?

[johneeb]

Here is the page from the EAA Mogas STC that covers required placards.