Stewart Warner Heater
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Stewart Warner Heater
Hello 170 fans.
I bought my 170A in July and am just starting my first annual inspection (owner assisted). So far all I’ve done is remove inspection panels, cowling and seats. But I’ve learned something new about my plane already. I’m not sure how I missed the two large holes in the skin on the bottom of the plane, but apparently my 170A had a Stewart Warner heater at one point. After I removed the rear seat I saw the floor had a big panel screwed down. I was a little worried at first since it is quite a large opening. Since then I double checked my hunch and the parts catalog shows a heater was optional below the rear seat.
I’m attaching pictures just to share with others. Does anyone have a picture of one of these heaters still installed? I’m guessing that it must have protruded above the floor below the rear seat. I’m curious.
I’ll probably have my A&P add a couple patches to the bottom skin to close up the holes. Any special tips for patching these two holes?
When I’m back at the hangar I’ll have to look and see where the Tee in the fuel line is and make sure it is good to go.
Doug
I bought my 170A in July and am just starting my first annual inspection (owner assisted). So far all I’ve done is remove inspection panels, cowling and seats. But I’ve learned something new about my plane already. I’m not sure how I missed the two large holes in the skin on the bottom of the plane, but apparently my 170A had a Stewart Warner heater at one point. After I removed the rear seat I saw the floor had a big panel screwed down. I was a little worried at first since it is quite a large opening. Since then I double checked my hunch and the parts catalog shows a heater was optional below the rear seat.
I’m attaching pictures just to share with others. Does anyone have a picture of one of these heaters still installed? I’m guessing that it must have protruded above the floor below the rear seat. I’m curious.
I’ll probably have my A&P add a couple patches to the bottom skin to close up the holes. Any special tips for patching these two holes?
When I’m back at the hangar I’ll have to look and see where the Tee in the fuel line is and make sure it is good to go.
Doug
N1235D - 1951 170A - SN: 20118
Re: Stewart Warner Heater
Thanks for the pics, I’ve never seen one myself anywhere!
Jim McIntosh..
1953 C170B S/N 25656
02 K1200RS
1953 C170B S/N 25656
02 K1200RS
Re: Stewart Warner Heater
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0829 ... MBLE8FUWBW
This is the heater we are using in alot of our UHHHHHHH rigs. self contained and works great. Have one set up for preheat and one in side by side , have them on my boat and in the other rig that levatates .
Puts out 17000 BTU's. thermostat controlled hooks up to 12 volt. 4 hoses to run where you want heat. or can get one with 1 nozzle about a 3" i believe.
This is the heater we are using in alot of our UHHHHHHH rigs. self contained and works great. Have one set up for preheat and one in side by side , have them on my boat and in the other rig that levatates .
Puts out 17000 BTU's. thermostat controlled hooks up to 12 volt. 4 hoses to run where you want heat. or can get one with 1 nozzle about a 3" i believe.
AA16, SHORTWING and SPAMCAN FLYER, JP
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Re: Stewart Warner Heater
I have never seen one in a 170 but this is one installed in a C-195 which is probably about the same installation. They work very well and throw out lots of heat. I have never had a problem with mine but there is a two year inspection AD on some of them.
If you have any desire to install another one, Aircraft Heating and Electric in Redding, CA has all the required parts and can supply a rebuilt unit. Be sitting down when they quote the price.
If the picture is oriented wrong, click on the picture and it should right itself.
If you have any desire to install another one, Aircraft Heating and Electric in Redding, CA has all the required parts and can supply a rebuilt unit. Be sitting down when they quote the price.
If the picture is oriented wrong, click on the picture and it should right itself.
Richard Pulley
2014-2016 TIC170A Past President
1951 170A, N1715D, s/n 20158, O-300D
Owned from 1973 to 1984.
Bought again in 2006 after 22 years.
It's not for sale!
2014-2016 TIC170A Past President
1951 170A, N1715D, s/n 20158, O-300D
Owned from 1973 to 1984.
Bought again in 2006 after 22 years.
It's not for sale!
Re: Stewart Warner Heater
I saw on a -195 site that they’re $13,000??hilltop170 wrote:If you have any desire to install another one, Aircraft Heating and Electric in Redding, CA has all the required parts and can supply a rebuilt unit. Be sitting down when they quote the price.
Glad I own a -170 with a good heater
1955 C170B N2993D s/n 26936
1986 DG-400 N9966C
1986 DG-400 N9966C
Re: Stewart Warner Heater
It’d be cheaper to buy heated socks and long johns if you don’t have a later B-model.IA DPE wrote:I saw on a -195 site that they’re $13,000??hilltop170 wrote:If you have any desire to install another one, Aircraft Heating and Electric in Redding, CA has all the required parts and can supply a rebuilt unit. Be sitting down when they quote the price.
Glad I own a -170 with a good heater
'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
Re: Stewart Warner Heater
A friend of mine replaced his gas fired heater in his Navion a couple of yrs ago. Think it was a Southwind, but can't remember for sure. $5,000.
OLE POKEY
170C
Director:
2012-2018
170C
Director:
2012-2018
Re: Stewart Warner Heater
Sometimes when It is 20 or more below like now, I have thought; boy one of those would be nice.
Tim
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I have a poor picture of the aux heater in my '51 170A. I will have to send it to Bruce though, as I am not sharp enough to get the file size correct.
Ty Richter
1712D
1712D
Re: Stewart Warner Heater
I remember the South Wind heaters back in the 50's. The dealer in Pontiac, Ken Barbar, had one in his 195. Went with him one very cold winter day. The plane was warm inside before we got to the runway. Really worked great.
Bruce
1950 170A N5559C
1950 170A N5559C
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Re: Stewart Warner Heater
Just before the Cody convention , I had a massive clean out of the hangar and it looks like a couple of those Stewert Warner heaters were thrown out with another type called Janertrol heater. They are not used in this part of the world and the Janertrol came out of a shrike 500 . They only add weight . I think the overhaul price on the Janertrol made the owners eyes water too much and he wanted the savings on the weight saving.
Re: Stewart Warner Heater
Janitrol. And some of the Janitrol heaters have AD notes on them with regard to leak-testing the burner can. (Using a vacuum cleaner and soap/foam and blow air to see where the bubbles appear.).
My ‘62 Baron had one of the early ones with a heavy cast burner can which was not subject to the AD, but the later sheet-metal burners had the AD, if I recall correctly.
Some DC3’s had Southwind heaters and pop-singer Ricky Nelson was killed in a fiery crash of his DC3 and neer-do-well people spread the rumor he’d started the cabin fire in-flight by free-basing cocaine.
It was a fake story. The Southwind heater was the cause of the fire which killed everyone.
My ‘62 Baron had one of the early ones with a heavy cast burner can which was not subject to the AD, but the later sheet-metal burners had the AD, if I recall correctly.
Some DC3’s had Southwind heaters and pop-singer Ricky Nelson was killed in a fiery crash of his DC3 and neer-do-well people spread the rumor he’d started the cabin fire in-flight by free-basing cocaine.
It was a fake story. The Southwind heater was the cause of the fire which killed everyone.
'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
Re: Stewart Warner Heater
The rudder of that ill fated DC-3 hangs in the large hangar at Air Salvage Dallas near Lancaster, TX (KLNC).
OLE POKEY
170C
Director:
2012-2018
170C
Director:
2012-2018