What did you buy for your 170 today?

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Re: What did you buy for your 170 today?

Postby Ryan Smith » Sun May 15, 2016 3:10 am

hilltop170 wrote:Congratulations Ryan! A real accomplishment!


That RNAV into GPM made all the difference. :wink:

This past week has been pretty tough. I got home Friday around lunchtime. I went out to Burlington-Alamance County Regional Airport to meet with the DPE I was going to use, as well as get a schedule setup through his flight school that afternoon. Saturday and Sunday were reserved for study. Monday, I jumped right in with a couple hours ground recap, and then a 2.5 hour flight that afternoon. Several more 12-hour days ensued, and Friday was checkride day. I passed my oral, and called the practical because of low clouds in the area. With a letter of discontinuance in my pocket and a plan to meet up later that afternoon, I had breakfast with a close friend and instructor who had been helping me a lot during the week with independent study and flying in the evenings when I got back home. We reviewed, and I headed back to the airport, and he back home to Greensboro - about a 25-mile drive.

Checkride passed, and I brought a couple of cases of beer to the airport to share in the celebration. This morning, I went down to Peachtree City - Falcon Field for the Aircraft Spruce customer appreciation day with a friend in his Comanche, and came back home (albeit a little late because of a precautionary landing for some engine troubleshooting) to an airport full of family and friends for a surprise early 30th birthday party. My birthday isn't until the 19th, but I leave tomorrow for Dallas/Ft. Worth again for a month, so I won't be around to celebrate with everyone.

The icing on the cake, quite literally, was this delicious fondant rendition of 56D that my wife had made by a cake shop locally. White cake with fresh strawberries and cream inside. It was amazing. I thought the bakery did a pretty spot-on job, as well. Though they missed the rudder, the venturis and comm antenna are present.

So today, I bought my 170 a birthday cake of herself. :lol:
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Re: What did you buy for your 170 today?

Postby Joe Moilanen » Sun May 15, 2016 6:39 pm

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I bought a lot of stuff for my 170 over the last few months. Had the engine majored. New Skytec starter, rebuilt generator, carb, mags, and vacuum pump. All new exhaust system and every hose replaced firewall forward.

Took it up for the initial hour of break-in yesterday. All went well, although my oil pressure seems a little on the high side at 55 lbs. Is this too high?

Looking forward to a lot of years of wearing it out again!!

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Re: What did you buy for your 170 today?

Postby N2625U » Mon May 16, 2016 1:02 am

I don't think I'd worry if that is close to what it was before the overhaul. The oil pressure in mine (Connie O300C) has always ran a little low (37 PSI/temp about 190 on EI oil/temp) before and after the overhaul. Before overhaul the engine ran for 40 years and 2000 hours I had it overhauled not because of any problems more for comfort. The bottom end was still in very good condition.
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Re: What did you buy for your 170 today?

Postby Joe Moilanen » Tue May 17, 2016 12:27 am

N2625U wrote:I don't think I'd worry if that is close to what it was before the overhaul. The oil pressure in mine (Connie O300C) has always ran a little low (37 PSI/temp about 190 on EI oil/temp) before and after the overhaul. Before overhaul the engine ran for 40 years and 2000 hours I had it overhauled not because of any problems more for comfort. The bottom end was still in very good condition.

Thanks, mine had 2500 hrs since major and the bottom end was in good condition on mine too. This is the second major on this engine. The crank has 4300 hrs on it and it is still standard and within new limits.

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Re: What did you buy for your 170 today?

Postby cessna170bdriver » Tue May 17, 2016 12:36 am

55 PSI is what a new regulator spring will give you. I had the same issue on mine in 2006. The collective wisdom here on the forums says it's normal.
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Re: What did you buy for your 170 today?

Postby Joe Moilanen » Tue May 17, 2016 9:31 pm

cessna170bdriver wrote:55 PSI is what a new regulator spring will give you. I had the same issue on mine in 2006. The collective wisdom here on the forums says it's normal.

That's all I need to hear! Thanks! I think I'll go flying for a few hours...

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Re: What did you buy for your 170 today?

Postby N2625U » Tue May 17, 2016 10:47 pm

Finally found the Operator's Manual for the O300 & C engines. It says the C125 oil pressure at cruise should be 30-40, C145 30-45 & O300 30-60.
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Re: What did you buy for your 170 today?

Postby fishdoc » Wed May 18, 2016 12:18 am

Just waiting on Chris from DelAir to ship my conversion kit....any day now!
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Re: What did you buy for your 170 today?

Postby DaveF » Mon May 23, 2016 3:43 am

DaveF wrote:A new MT propeller! It does everything John Nielsen said it would: shorter ground roll, better rate of climb, 15 pounds off the nose, and very smooth at all RPM. With the Lyc O-360, the airplane was already an excellent short-field and high altitude performer, and now it's even better.

I'm glad to be rid of the old Hartzell, with its recurring eddy current inspection AD and annoying RPM restriction. The MT also governs RPM to a lower power setting than the Hartzell, which would revert to fixed-pitch in the pattern.

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Flew yesterday and am more impressed than ever with the MT. On a 7500 DA day it gave 600-800 fpm climb with two aboard. The Hartzell sort of went limp in warm conditions. An unexpected benefit is that CHTs are lower in climb than they used to be, too.
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Re: What did you buy for your 170 today?

Postby lowNslow » Mon May 23, 2016 1:47 pm

The one downside I've heard about from the Lycon engine shop is that MT props are hard on starters. I think this is mainly with the larger bore engines. My guess is that because they are so light they don't provide very much fly wheel effect. Also had a friend who had some blade work done on his MT and cost was $10K+ 8O. What does it cost to buy a new one??
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Re: What did you buy for your 170 today?

Postby canav8 » Mon May 23, 2016 3:45 pm

lowNslow wrote:The one downside I've heard about from the Lycon engine shop is that MT props are hard on starters. I think this is mainly with the larger bore engines. My guess is that because they are so light they don't provide very much fly wheel effect. Also had a friend who had some blade work done on his MT and cost was $10K+ 8O. What does it cost to buy a new one??

Karl the reason why they are hard on starters is because they are lighter and there is less mass then the metal props for rotating. D
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Re: What did you buy for your 170 today?

Postby DaveF » Mon May 23, 2016 4:11 pm

No problems with the starter yet. My only complaint is that the RPM isn't as stable as it was with the Hartzell. Every once in a while there seems to be a slight surge or instability. I may end up having to overhaul the governor, but I'll put a few more hours on the prop before I decide if it's worth it.
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Re: What did you buy for your 170 today?

Postby canav8 » Mon May 23, 2016 4:14 pm

DaveF wrote:No problems with the starter yet. My only complaint is that the RPM isn't as stable as it was with the Hartzell. Every once in a while there seems to be a slight surge or instability. I may end up having to overhaul the governor, but I'll put a few more hours on the prop before I decide if it's worth it.

I have heard that as well. Its the nasty secrets that bother me when buying this technology. Also Dave watch out for prop erosion in rain.
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Re: What did you buy for your 170 today?

Postby DaveF » Mon May 23, 2016 4:18 pm

I haven't flown in rain for years. But with a nickel leading edge I'm not real worried about it. I'm more concerned about rock nicks on the aft face, but I don't have any of those yet, either.
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Re: What did you buy for your 170 today?

Postby Metal Master » Fri May 27, 2016 1:50 pm

For those of you not viewing the TCM IO 360 Install posts here is what the UPS man dropped off at my door step last night. (literally)

On a humorous note Phyllis was concerned that UPS would drop it off at the door and it would get stolen. I told her that the two Dog UPS alarm system was set and that both she and I had a clear view of the road out the front window. (We have UPS deliveries all of the time) In the event the driver came down the Cul-de-sac pulled to the curb Honked his horn and the Two dog alarm system went off. Phyllis and I both went to the back door the Driver took one step off the truck and handed both UPS deliveries right into my hands on the back porch. He has never done that before he usually pulls up out front.

The UPS man delivered on time yesterday afternoon; so the un-boxing and inventory proceeded post haste. Looking at all that is required, additional components will be 2 Aero-Quip fittings to make the additional AN fuel line to install the fuel flow transducer. A 1 amp circuit breaker to add to the Avionics buss. Fire sleeve, and some wire. Adel clamps, All in stock but the AeroQuip fittings and Adel clamps. I have used what I have up making the installation on the Cardinal CGR-30P engine monitor.
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A trip to the Aircraft hardware store is in the plan.
I think I can have this thing installed in a day and a 1/2. We will see.
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