operating limitations decal

3958v · Post by **3958v** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 1:53 am

I needed an operating limitations decal for the restoration of my 48 170. Since I have a very original looking pannel I decided to order one from Cessna. First shock price about $35. Since most every thing else was original I bit the bullet and ordered it. Well it came yesterday and it was yellow printing. Then I tried to put it on today. It was an old style that you dip in water and slide off. Well when I dipped in water it disentigrated. Sure hope the test flight goes better. Bill

Kyle Wolfe · Post by **Kyle Wolfe** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 2:45 am

I too need a new operating limitations decal for my 53B. I've had some really neat graphics done by a local decal shop. Stuff like business hours and no smoking signs for business doors. My plans are to have them cut me one. They go on very easy and look great.

What I don't know are things like:
Dimenstions of the decal?
What font size?
Any outline or border around the wording?
How is the wording arranged - one column for normal and another for utility?

Anyone out there who can take a digital picture of their B model limitations decal? Would greatly appreciate it.

Anyone with a ragwing who could take a picture for Bill?

Bill, if I can get a picture I'll have one made and I can let you know the price of mine and how it went.

Kyle
1932C

zero.one.victor · Post by **zero.one.victor** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 4:48 am

We just had some posts about this less than a month ago. Regarding required wording,location,etc. Reading these new posts,I'm assuming that you guys want to exactly reproduce the factory placard for originality's sake?

Eric

russfarris · Post by **russfarris** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 6:02 am

About two years ago, I had the operating limitations placard reproduced from an original I had by Moody Aerographics in Florida. Now, I have a 1952 B model so it may differ (check the TCDS) but I was told they keep the work they do on such projects, so it might be worth a call. I'll post the number if anyone is interested. Russ Farris P.S. I forget the price, but it should be less since the work has been done.

russfarris · Post by **russfarris** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 6:13 am

Well, I just checked for myself and the 1948 170 does differ from the A and B models on the placard - the 1948 has a note about both front seats must be occupied if both rear seats are, also the A and B mention having the fuel selector on both for T.O. and landing. Russ Farris

Kyle Wolfe · Post by **Kyle Wolfe** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 11:58 am

I've got all the wording from the TCDS. What I don't know is what the thing looks like. And for originality sake, I'd like to reproduce it as closely as possible.

Russ, if you find their number, that would be great.

My request is for someone to take a picture of their B model operating placard and either place it on this site or send me a copy.

Thanks.

Kyle

BloomerJohn · Post by **BloomerJohn** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 2:22 pm

I have a restored '48 170 and had new decals made for the panel. A local printer sreened them on very thin clear adhesive. Originals were a yellow tint as you discovered from Cessna. I elected to place white because the yellow was very difficult to see on against the panel base color.
The font, layout and size is exact. Choose from the yellow tint or white. Printer will redo project for $25. This gets you 4 sets of decals - 2 each in yellow and white. I can e-mail pics of my panel if you e-mail me with a request. john@nielsenford.com

zero.one.victor · Post by **zero.one.victor** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 3:46 pm

Sounds like enough for four airplanes. Four ragwing owners oughta get together & divvy up the cost. I'd get involved except I don't need the fancy placard--I just wrote the op limitations on the glovebox door with a sharpie marker. Works for me! And the price is right!

Eric

Post by **GAHorn** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 5:49 pm

I have the set of original decals, and I also have a clear-sheet for printer reproductions if anyone needs them for a '53. I'll be happy to scan and email either to you. The placard in question is 4 5/8" wide by 1 3/4" tall, yellow. It reads, within a rectangle, (formatting is different than that displayed by this software.):
THIS AIRPLANE MUST BE OPERATED AS A NORMAL OR UTILITY CATEGORY AIRPLANE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE FLIGHT MANUAL

-NORMAL-

NO ACROBATIC MANEUVERS INCLUDING SPINS APPROVED

-UTILITY-

NO ACROBATIC MANEUVERS APPROVED EXCEPT THOSE LISTED IN THE FLIGHT MANUAL. BAGGAGE COMPARTMENT AND REAR SEAT MUST NOT BE OCCUPIED.