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Re: Cessna 170B fun decals

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:08 pm
by juredd1
Yes prop looks a bit long. Wouldn't take much for it to strike the ground in that plane but I'm guessing I could live with it.

Forgive me here but I've never messed with these types of decals. I take it, that is the set of two. Are they stick-able from both sides or on one side. I have a plan and I need to be able to apply both of them pointing in the same direction. Not asking for a change for me just verifying so I know before hand.

Re: Cessna 170B fun decals

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:16 pm
by canav8
juredd1 wrote:Yes prop looks a bit long. Wouldn't take much for it to strike the ground in that plane but I'm guessing I could live with it.

Forgive me here but I've never messed with these types of decals. I take it, that is the set of two. Are they stick-able from both sides or on one side. I have a plan and I need to be able to apply both of them pointing in the same direction. Not asking for a change for me just verifying so I know before hand.
your plan will not work. single sided adhesive vinyl.

Re: Cessna 170B fun decals

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:23 pm
by bagarre
Can I have mine with a bullet spinner? :lol:

Re: Cessna 170B fun decals

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:28 pm
by juredd1
hmmmmm.....what to do.

Put me down for a third set then please, unless someone wants to swap out their left ones for my right ones, decals that is just to be perfectly clear. I don't have very many plans that come together so I'm going to try to force this one.

Kind of liking David's without the wheel pants......just sayin.

Re: Cessna 170B fun decals

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:14 pm
by bagarre
I think the profile can be kept generic enough to where it will work for an A, B and straight 170 all at the same time.
That and I'd just put "Cessna 170" (IMO) as I never really make the distinction when telling people what kind of plane I fly. (IMO)

Also, if we make it type specific, how do we handle the '52 which is half A and half B in a lot of ways.

Re: Cessna 170B fun decals

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:13 pm
by counsellj
Can I get one with two 4" venturis on the right side, 8.0x6.0 tires, a 80/46 prop and a long range VOR antenna on the tail. I would also like it to be in formation with an F-15 and have C170U2 depicted in the left seat with Just an F-15 pilot in the instructor pilot. Please make the left wing Green, Right wing Red and 3oz of MMO in the green wing tank and 100LL in the Red tank. Also make the decal 10% smaller because a 42R just doesn't quite fit the same.

Jughead :lol: :D

Re: Cessna 170B fun decals

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:19 pm
by rupertjl
Aryana,

Put me down for two sets, scale type.

thanks!

Re: Cessna 170B fun decals

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:35 pm
by johneeb
counsellj wrote:............Please make the left wing Green, Right wing Red and 3oz of MMO in the green wing tank and 100LL in the Red tank. Also make the decal 10% smaller because a 42R just doesn't quite fit the same.

Jughead :lol: :D
Jughead, that paint scheme is perfect for right hand traffic patterns but would never work in left hand traffic patterns as the airplane would be constantly turning right what with the left wing being faster green and the right wing slower red!!! :roll:

Arish, put me down for one set of each.

Re: Cessna 170B fun decals

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:51 pm
by counsellj
johneeb wrote:
counsellj wrote:............Please make the left wing Green, Right wing Red and 3oz of MMO in the green wing tank and 100LL in the Red tank. Also make the decal 10% smaller because a 42R just doesn't quite fit the same.

Jughead :lol: :D
Jughead, that paint scheme is perfect for right hand traffic patterns but would never work in left hand traffic patterns as the airplane would be constantly turning right what with the left wing being faster green and the right wing slower red!!! :roll:

Arish, put me down for one set of each.
But as a Master Aerobatic instructor, I would be inverted in the pattern for left turns. Ha Ha

Re: Cessna 170B fun decals

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:19 pm
by N8293A
Add my in for two sets of the scale version

Re: Cessna 170B fun decals

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:38 pm
by GAHorn
That IS a bullet spinner. I'll take two, also. (scale) Thanks. When/Where/How Much do I send it?

Re: Cessna 170B fun decals

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:26 am
by Ryan Smith
Old habits die hard, but I do have a few comments.

1. As has been mentioned previously, the prop is way too long. I would make it about 2/3 of the length.
2. The corrugations on the rudder are a bit thick. It would be nice if they were thinner, particularly since they are stylized and not necessarily 100% scale.
3. The vertical line on top of the vertical fin would be served better if it were moved to the upper leading edge of the fin to depict the counterbalance, which all 170s have. He accomplished this well with the caricature.
4. The cowling inlets are indicative of a later model 170B (pressure cowl) to me, at least. It's not a show stopper, but my family having a '52 leaves me with the preference for the air box cowling. The cowl inlets would not be visible from a side view anyway, so it would be interesting to see their omission, particularly since it is essentially depicting only the '53 and '54 because it has rounded rear windows. The '55 and later had the pressure cowling and square rear windows.
5. Having dual venturis on the left and right profiles would not be a bad idea. Having them on the decal, I believe, is more important than where they are (left/right), so both sides would be good.
6. The aileron/flap doesn't match the trailing edge fillet. It would be nice if it aligned a little better.
7. The generalized "170" I think would suffice, rather than model designator. To be honest, I will probably trim the lettering away before application.

I don't mean to be insulting to the artist or anyone else, as I think he has done an amazing job. In my line of work is it customary (required) to nit pick details when proofing artwork. Obviously as a group, we are much more sensitive as a whole, than anyone else to the differences to these airplanes. I also realize that no two airplane, even of the same model, are identical to each other after sixty years.

Thanks for going out of your way to make this opportunity available to us all, Arash.

Re: Cessna 170B fun decals

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:48 am
by bagarre
I didn't read anything in Ryan's post that I disagree with...less the venturis but even that wouldn't hurt my feelings.

This is a cool little project.

Put me in for two orders instead of one and I'll donate the second one to the Association.
It might make a neat door prize to someone someday.

Depending on his equipment, we should talk to the guy about cutting the placards unique to the 170 as well.
They would look real good as cut transfers.

oh and meant Skull Cap spinner vs Bullet. Not that the spinner would hurt my feelings either.

Re: Cessna 170B fun decals

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:36 am
by GAHorn
Welll....if you guys are gonna be THAT picky, then remove the mrkr-bcn antenna and get rid of the cheap Narco txdr antenna too! :lol:

I LIKE the flap treatment...it gives dimension to the wing. I think he's done a great job and don't need anything else done to it. Thx for looking into this.

Re: Cessna 170B fun decals

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:11 am
by busav8or
Aryana, I'd like one scale set, please!

Thanks,
Joe